Wednesday, March 28, 2007

Prophet Mohammed in Hindu Scriptures??????!!!!!

One comes across many Islamic sites these days claiming that Prophet Mohammed is prophesied in Bhavishya Purana and the Kalki, the tenth Avatara of Vishnu Hindus are eagerly waiting to come at the end of Kali Yuga has already come 1400 years ago in the form of Prophet Mohammed and they are yet to realize it.

It is obvious that this is 24 carat crap. No proofs are actually required. However for person who has an element of doubt or is curious to know, I am presenting some points against these theories:

1. Though the name of the Purana is Bhavishya purana, it is actually a misnormer. The purana mostly deals with the Surya and Chandra dynasties (ie., Ramayana and Mahabharata). It also deals with greatness of the dates and worship of Lord Vishnu, Shiva and Surya; description of the heaven etc. In all, the subject matter of Bhavishya Purana seems to be an attempt to prove and establish the supremacy of Brahma.

2. Actually, Puranas are NOT scriptures of Hinduism. Its true that many Hindus revere them, but there it stops. None considers them as “authorities”. They fall in the Smriti portion of the Hindu Scriptures –ie., books which change according to time, place and person and hence are only to be considered as counsel and not as authorities- no different from all the management books you find in market today like "seven habits of successful men", "you can win" etc etc.

3. Even among the puranas it is accepted fact that many of them have been extensively changed in the last thousand years and Bhavishya Purana tops this list. This was done either by some Muslims trying to convert Hindus to Islam or by some over zealous Hindus trying to prove their loyalty to their new ‘rulers’.

4. I tried very much to find a copy of BP, but was not successful. I could only lay my hands on an a book summarizing BP and I did not find any such references in that book. There are no such references in an telugu translation of the book as well. So the bottom line is that it is very very difficult to find an copy of BP and even in the editions I managed to lay my hands on, I did not find any such references. Though I don’t have any references to give, a friend who knows lot better than me that there are many versions of Bhavishya Purana (BP) and that these so called references of Prophet are traced back to only one source, thus making it unreliable.

5. This fact is acknowledged even among orthodox circles. They do not readily accept anything from BP, unless the same is substantiated in other more reliable books also.

6. This is one side of it, but there will be always some people who will be never ready to accept what they don’t want to believe. Hence to such Muslims I can only say, if you believe that Prophet Mohammed is the 10th incarnation of Vishnu, then you are welcome to worship the other previous incarnations of Vishnu (Rama, Krishna) as well :D.

7. There is a saying that the best way to defeat a ridiculous argument is to be more ridiculous. And our ISKCON, the Hindu version of Abrahamic religions does not want to be left behind in this. So it came up with the same tactics- it claims that Prophet Mohammed is indeed prophesied in BP, but not as an avatara, but as an illusionist coming in the form of a pisacha. It too gives its own version of “references” etc. It is redundant to mention that this too is fake, but then as I said, for some only these type of arguments work.

So I can safely conclude that all these stuff of Prophet in the Hindu scriptures is either misinformed or wrong propaganda. Muslims who indulge in this should realise that one need not produce (so-called) references from Hindu scriptures for converting Hindus or for making them respect Prophet. The principles are more important. If the life of Prophet, Christ etc is worthy of respect, Hindus will do so, even if not mentioned in their scriptures. If their life and teachings are not worthy of respect, Hindus cannot show respect to them, inspite of any references in the ‘scriptures’. Hence it is waste of energies to concentrate on such false propaganda. Instead focus on what they said and how they lived may be more helpful.


Blogger Sandeep said...

sUrya bAbu,

I have one issue with this ( BTW sorry for the delayed comment etc. ). First, can you give the reference to "shruti-smRti-virOdhE tu smRtirEva garIyasI"?

And secondly, the above statement only means that those portions of the smRtis that contradict the shrutis should be rejected, right? How does that apply to the present context? Thirdly, is there any reference to the statement that smRtis should change according to time and need? Granted there are different smRtis which are meant for the four different yugas but is that all?

P. S. : I am "anonymous" - don't address me by my real name.

8:16 AM  
Blogger Sandeep said...

Oops I actually used my real name.

8:17 AM  
Blogger nandi23 said...

You actually touched on a very relevant point here, everyone expects some kind or prophet and expects that authentication of 'scripture' be proved by prophecy being fulfilled. I guess that too many people will sit back and wait some for prophecy or prophet to come and will never actually realize the self. Anyways i love that you pointed out that many 'scriptures' described laws and rules for a specific era and should not be held true for all ages. The only thing that probably is true is the infallibility of man and need for preordained rules for society and religion.

6:52 AM  
Blogger nandi23 said...

"It is obvious that this is 24 carat crap."

I love the way there was no pretense in this! You simply stated an opinion and extended the feeling associated with it!

7:13 AM  
Blogger Surya S said...

First, can you give the reference to "shruti-smRti-virOdhE tu smRtirEva garIyasI"?

When I wrote that one, I did not write it as a research paper with all required references to justify my every claim :P

I wrote it only as a pointer to an average Hindu, keeping it simple, without any unnecessary technicalities and as a starting point.

A deeper seeker may find more on those issues. Personally Swamiji says so and its enough for me.

11:59 AM  
Blogger rohit said...

Christianity is a fake religion. Christ was a meat eater. According to the bible he ate broiled fish after so called resurrection.

6:17 AM  
Blogger gour said...

What is important here is not that Bhavisya Purana is questionable.
Perhaps the poor Muslims, who take the Bhavisya Purana account favorably are unaware of the whole truth.
This is what the Bhavisya Purana says:
1. One of the biggest demons of the netherworld ("Tripurasur") was sent over to the land of ghosts (Saudi Arabia).
2. He founded a anti-Vedic religion (as the asuras usually wanted something against the Vedas).
The purpose of this was to advance Kaliyuga.

So, I tend to accept the Bhavisya Purana account.
Even from spiritual persons, who don't accept the Puranas, I have come to know that many subtle sorcerers and demons exist in the universe. The greatest among the sorcerers are powerful and also capable of misguiding the masses with their charisma and magic!
What more need I say.

7:36 AM  
Blogger Surya S said...

though your sentiment is appreciated, I don't think we ought something as true just coz it is "politically beneficial"
anyways, I think my point-7 already discusses your quotes.

8:42 PM  
Blogger Mustafa said...

I have posted an article about 50 correct beautiful Hadits of the Great Prophet Muhammed. Peace be upon Him

7:46 AM  
Blogger k3m21 said...

zakir naik is a grade a asshole , anyone who believes him needs to get a brain checkup

11:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all I am very Happy that our Hindu brothers keep starting research on there holy scripture.And secondly brother acknowledge that Bavishya Puran is not considerable book for this claim(About Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) As Kaliki avtar) So again question raised that the kaliki waiting for By Hindu brothers also a Misnoma if Bhavisya Purana is not Authorized book ? And I am very crucious about to Know what will be the our Hindu brothers response about the verese from Vedas which tell us " Whomsoever worshiping the natural things they are leading in to darkness and whomsoever worshiping hand made things are more in to darkness" and Others verse explaining"There is no second god but one god" and "There is nothing like him" Please give justification or how we should understand this verse from Hindu Believe point view?


2:11 PM  
Blogger Author Prayatna said...

They talk about Muhammad being mentioned in the Hinduic scripts. Even few logics are also presented. But the thing is they know not Hinduism in deep.

Do you know why a horse has its one leg in the air while its three legs in the ground? ...
I bet no one does... The four legs of the horse represents the four Vedas (Rig, Sam, Yajur and Atharva Vedas).
Here's the truth ... Ved Vyas was only the knower of Rig Veda, Sam Veda and Yajur Veda except for the Atharva Veda.
Atharva Veda was never explained by anyone... I mean none, not even Vyas! So, one of the few tasks of Kalki becomes - to explain the knowledge of Atharva Veda (symbollically - the fourth leg of Kalki's horse).

I'm saying this because Prophet Muhammad had never ever explained the knowledge Atharva Ved in the Mecca, or did he? Please, ask this question to those who claim that Prophet Muhammad to be Kalki.

But why are the leaders presenting "Muhammad" as "Kalki"? ... You know Why? ... cuz they don't know who Kalki is ... It is just their hunch! ... Yeah, few similarities are presented but I think that isn't fully sufficient to prove that Muhammad is Kalki.

But on the other hand, (according to my perspective, the perspective that I had developed on my own from the wisdom of Mahamati Prannath), Rasul Muhammad is partially Kalki (in one way)!!! ... Do you wanna know why? ... Then, please read Alif Lam Mim. Alif Lam Mim is
the Kalki of Hindus!!! And not even the Hindus or the Muslims ever knew of this fact!!!
Rasul Muhammad's spirit was also present in Kalki (or Mahamati Prannath)!!

And Mahamati Prannath is Kalki because he had explained the Atharva Veda in its original sense!!! Thus, by explaining Atharva Veda, Mahamati Prannath (the Kalki) has ridden his horse!

Also download the biography of Mahamati Prannath by clicking here, and read it for yourself if you don't believe me a bit!!!

9:25 AM  

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